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he is picking kansas. >> it is really wale. >> see, i got that part wrong. you're much hipper than i am. >> i met him. he was at the nba all star game with me. >> then he must have been guiding you through this. this is wolf's brackets. wolf, i want you to explain a couple of these. let's start where you're strong. over here, this area over here, south, you're doing pretty good. good picks. what happened here with bcu and akron? >> my wife went to akron for a year. i had an emotional attachment. >> it was a very close game. 88-42. >> 88-42. a squeaker. you almost had it. >> i like average. >> down here, what did do you? you're okay. nc state. you blew it on that one. temple edged them out. unlv-california, another one. >> stuff happens. overall kind of okay. i got a lot of these right, right? >> nobody is perfect. >> the blue is wrong. a little trouble here. some of these, you get -- but then, oh, my gosh, wolf.
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what happened down here? >> i really thought pittsburgh. >> this is unbelievable down here. what happened? >> gonzaga i knew was going to win even though pittsburgh almost won. >> what happened with this whole wisconsin thread here? this is disastrous. >> stuff happens. >> why did you think wisconsin was going to edge them? >> i like wisconsin, it's a nice state. >> i know it's a nice state. >> i have an attachment to it. >> but you're a big basketball fan. have you been to a basketball game? >> one or two. >> so what what was it, were you filling this out while you were driving? >> you know what? my final four, i'm really confident about the final four. >> let's talk about the final four. you have louisville. >> they're still in. >> all the pros are picking louisville. >> i have ohio state. they're still in, right? >> i have georgetown there. >> georgetown. >> i have miami. they're still in, right? >> they're all solid. >> and i say georgetown. >> and you say georgetown. why are you saying georgetown? >> i like all the washington, d.c. teams. i'm a local guy. >> it's all coming down to this. >> i think is the year that
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georgetown will win six games in a row and be the chapmpion? >> really? >> yes. >> how are you doing by the way mr. genius? yeah. not so good. >> tom foreman. that's it for us. thanks very much for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next. new developments to night in the case of the prison chief gunned down at his front door. police say a white supremacist that served time in one of his prisons is involved and there are new pieces of evidence tonight. plus, vice president joe biden spent more than half a million dollars on a night in paris, a night in paris. does it add up? and the u.s. government spent more than a million dollars on aviation towers just a few years ago and now they're being closed. we're going to tell you why. that does not add up. let's go "outfront."
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>> good evening, everyone. we have breaking news. the denver police say evan eiber, a former colorado inmate and member of a white supremacist gang is linked to the murder of colorado state prison chief tom clemens. we are just getting new information in tonight from court documents filed in texas. investigators say that the shell casings found in his car matched the caliber of weapon used to kill clemens and matched the brand of the casings as well. now here's what we know about eibel. he is 20 years old. he was member of a white supremacist group. once you join, the only way out of that gang is death. he was killed after a high speed chase in texas last night.
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we have a reporter in colorado right now on who evan eibel is. first, i want to get to jeff krayemer from the el paso county sheriff's department. lieutenant, thanks for taking the time. let's get straight to this breaking news we have in the affidavit that just came in. i'm reading here that hornad hornaday .9 millimeter casings were the same brand and caliber used by the suspect in the wise county incident. what more can you tell us about that? >> actually, from our perspecti perspective, the sheriff's office as far as the shooting investigation, we're not releasing our ballistics information. i realize the affidavit speaks to what they found. of course, our investigators have been there since yesterday. we're waiting to hear word back from there as to the items of interest that we may be looking further into. >> okay. so shou confident are you then given what you have that ebel was the one who shot tom clemens in cold blood?
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>> well, certainly even when we became aware of the information coming out of texas yesterday, obviously, we certainly raised an eyebrow to it and had a lot of hope at that point that this might be a significant lead and perhaps a break in the case. although, we can't speak with that level of confidence quite yet. there is no confirmation yet. but we're hopeful that when our investigators return and we have a chance to speak with them as far as their findings that we'll have something more conclusive. >> lieutenant cramer, we know ebel was part of the 211 gang that is in prisons. how likely was it that he was ordered to place a hit job on clemens? a lot of speculation around that central issue today. >> well, that's certainly yet to be known. obviously we're aware of the potential background for that gentleman and if it turns out that we have confirmation that he is linked to our crime, that is something we'll be looking into. some of the efforts have already begun. we certainly are working a lot of things simultaneously and trying to educate ourselves, if you will, truly it's a
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fact-finding mission for us right now to determine what that background consisted of and where that leads us is yet to be known. >> all right. and then now a finally all colorado corrections facilities are under lockdown through the weekend. so is that just a precaution or are you concerned there could be more violence? >> well, i can't speak to the increased security that the department of corrections is exercising at this point. obviously they have to make sure that they do their own asse assessment and what they feel might be remaining risks or not and make decisions accordingly. and then we recognize that amongst various executives across the state that's something that we're actively engaged in in terms of providing additional security from our perspective. but we realize that because there is no conclusive, you know, ending to this case yet, it's unknown on whether or not there is a remaining threat or not. >> lieutenant kramer, thank you for taking the time. the latest information we have from texas officials is that the hornaday .9 millimeter shell
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casings they found in that car last night match by brand and caliber the one used to kill mr. clemens. our reporter has been in colorado since the story broke. he has more details on the alleged shooter, evan ebel. >> reporter: evan ebel grew up on this quiet street in lakewood, colorado. neighbors say when he was around, it was anything but quiet. >> he just seemed ang rich. he was an angry kid. >> reporter: vicki banky lives across the street from the home why ebel lived with his father and sister. >> i could see him. he'd be running out on his -- on the front lawn to come out with a car with friends. he would have screaming on sen 'tis laced arguments with them. one time i saw him, you know, take something to the back of the friend's car he was so mad. you know, he just struck me as angry. and troubled. >> reporter: neighbors vividly recall ebel's wild streak in addition to the violent encounters with his friends, one time he was seen jumping off the roof of the house here.
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another time he was overheard loudly talking about his cocaine use. ebel's criminal record dates back to his teenage years. there was a misdemeanor conviction for obstruction of a police officer. then at least five felony convictions for robbery, menacing and assault. in 2006, he was convicted of assaulting a latino prison guard. but nothing like what he is suspected of now. killing of tom clemens, colorado's corrections director, the killing of nate leon, a dominos pizza delivery man and a high speed chase and shootout with police in texas. >> certainly he is the focus of our investigation at this point. we do have investigators in texas. the moment that we heard about the high speed pursuit and the shooting, we did have investigators pretty much on a plane en route to texas. >> reporter: ebel also had ties to 211 prison gang according to colorado's anti-defamation league. neighbors say they saw no signs of racist leanings during his
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rants. neighbors also expressed sympathy for ebel's father, respected colorado attorney who was raising his two children alone. the 16-year-old daughter was killed in an auto accident in 2006. now his son has parished in a barrage of bullets and under suspicion. erin? >> thank you very much, casey. i want to bring mark podock into this conversation now. he tracks hate groups. mark, let me start with you. the "denver post" reports, i want to read this quote again, "once a gang member joins 211, death is the only way out." the symbols are 211, nazi symbols, white power symbols. what can you tell us about this gang? >> well, it's a pretty vicious white supremacist prison gang started in 1995 in the colorado prisons. the estimates i've seen run anywhere from a couple hundred members to as many as 1,000. and they've been associated with a great deal of criminal
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violence. murders, attempted murders, extortion, extortion to fellow inmates, running drugs and weapons as well. what may be their most infamous crime was the 1997 murder of a black man, a immigrant in denver would was standing at a bus stop. this was in 1997. he was murdered. the murderer was a member of the 211 crew. phil infamously told authorities after his arrest that he had murdered omar, the victim, because he was "wearing the enemy's uniform." in other words, because he had black skin. >> wow. casey, this -- as mark is saying, this gang operates from inside prison. is that your understanding also from your reporting on the ground there that the operations of 211 really come from inside the prison wall? >> reporter: inside the prison wall and also evan ebel had lots of experience inside prison walls dating back to 2003 as we
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reported. his first crime that we could find, his earliest crime, he was with acquaintances watching a denver broncos football game according to witnesses there. he pulled a fire arm and robbed them of their wallets and of some cash and then took off. there is someone who is definitely the definition of a hardened criminal. i do want to mention though that the neighborhood he grew up in, you probably saw those pictures from our report. very well to do neighborhood. neighbors say this is not a place that would be a breeding ground for racists or white supremacists and they never heard among his rants and outbursts any sort of racial tinge or racial anomus, erin. >> mark, how would a hit job have worked then given what casey is explaining about the gang? how does a group like this where someone inside the prison is saying we're going to take a hit out on this man, tom clemens. they communicate with ebel on the outside of prison walls. how does that happen?
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>> well, the 211 crew, like other prison gangs, is increasingly spilling out on to the streets. so all of its members are no longer in prison. although mostst leaders certainly are. typically the way these crews operate is by using both verbal and written codes. in fact, a major racketeering case was brought against some 32 members of the group back in 2005 that began with the police officer breaking one of the codes. so, you know, who is to say if they -- if some kind of order was received from on high. but it is known that the leader of this gang as well as others are able to get messages to the outside and are able to direct criminal activity even often when they're in solitary confinement. >> wow. thank you very much, mark and casey. still to come, three people dead tonight at a military base
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in virginia. all three, marines. plus, amanda knox. her freedom apparently could be in jeopardy. italy's court about to decide if her murder conviction should be reinstated. and president obama, you remember when he promised to shut down guantanamo? so why is the administration considering spending another $50 million to build a new prison there? it's not what you think. it's a phoenix with 4 wheels. it's a hawk with night vision goggles. it's marching to the beat of a different drum. and where beauty meets brains. it's big ideas with smaller footprints. and knowing there's always more in the world to see. it's the all-new lincoln mkz.
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$49 million to build a new prison building at guantanamo bay for "high value detainees," that includes people like 9/11 master minds. now this is according to "the new york times" and the money, i want to emphasize, $49 million, is in addition to the $150 million to $170 million that the top u.s. commander in the region says he needs tore improvements to the existing gouantanamo facilities. well, the problem is, well, this. investing in guantanamo would seem to break a rather big campaign promise from this president. >> we're going to close go guantana guantanamo. i will close guantanamo. >> promptly to close the guantanamo. >> he said it again and again. it is a promise, of course, that he hasn't kept to this point. and now he might put another $200 million into guantanamo. "outfront" tonight, retired colonel morris davis.
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and rosa brooks, former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration. i appreciate both of you taking the time. let me start with you, colonel. $200 million also equals half the amount that was just cut from head start programs before spending cuts. so that's 35,000 low-income kids that could good back into early education programs. i'm just using that to give an example for this. can the obama administration give gitmo $200 million without seeming utterly hypocritical? >> i don't know how you do it. we had a plan back years ago to spend $120 million to build a complex at guantanamo. we were told it was a temporary facility and it was nuts to spend that kind of money so they built a $12 million temporary facility instead. as you say, when we're in a time of sequester and cutting money to spend that kind of, you know, almost a quarter billion dollars to detain in essence 80 men is outrageous. >> it seems shocking. rosa, when you look at the --
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you said the $49 million they swant for high value detainees. there are 16 detainee that's fall in that category. so $49 million for the new facility is $3 million per diem takenee. so we're already spending $60 million a year just to operate guantanamo. should we be spending $3 million a detainee for something like this? >> you know, erin, when you're at the pentagon you discover when you breathe you spent about $1 million. every time you open your mouth you spend another $1 million. things are expensive at the pentagon. yes, this is a shocking amount of money to spend on a place we said we were going to close a long time ago. on the other hand, i think we're focusing on the wrong canned scandal. we got the people. we have detainees and guards there. we have to make sure that conditions are humane and we have to make sure that they're safe. i think the real scandal is that we've got people there who have been cleared for release who are government believes are innocent and harmless but we can't figure out what to do with them. so they're still basically stuck in jail. and we've got people who are
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detaining indefinitely. we don't plan to try them. we don't know what to do with them. that is the real scandal. it's not about guantanamo. it's about our detention policies more broadly. >> you raise an interesting point. there was a report last year from the office of the director of national intelligence that found 28% of the 599 detainees that have been released from guantanamo were either confirmed or suspected of going back and engaging in mill tanlt terrorist activity. when you see that recidivism rate that, is a shocking number. as bad as the situation is, was the president naive to say he's going to close guantanamo in the first place? >> i think he underestimated the degree of congressional opposition. i also think though that we would be facing the exact same issues right now, frankly, if these guys were held in des moines, iowa. it doesn't matter where we hold them at this point. u.s. courts have jurisdiction over guantanamo. it doesn't matter where they are, the problem is that we're holding on to them and we don't know what to do with them. >> colonel davis, is there any other alternative here? is the president put in a spot where in order for people to
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perhaps literally not escape, i don't know, i'm trying to figure out the right frame of reference here that, he has to spend the additional $200 million? >> it doesn't have to be spent. we have federal prisons that cost $32,000 a year to keep someone incarcerated in the maximum security prisons. so this, is you know, back in the old days senator faxmeyer had a golden fleece award for wasting government money. this is nothing more than a huge waste of government money and in a time when we're wanting to cut budgets. it's the people that complain the most about wasteful government spending that are the same ones that want to keep guantanamo open. when we're really talking about 80 people that we're going to spend a quarter of a billion dollars to confine. >> thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate your point of view. we talk about spending government money. we're going to talk about the single night hotel tab of joe biden coming up. first, three marines dead at base in virginia tonight. we're learning more about the shooter and the victims.
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our third story, murder on a marine base. three marines dead at a base in quantico, virginia, after one of their own shot and killed two fellow marines and then shot himself. authorities have not disclosed a motive or the identity of the suspected shooter but trying to figure it out. this comes on the heels of seven marines killed earlier this week in a training accident in nevada. 10 dead marines in this country in just five days. brian todd is in quont he could tonight with the latest. brian, are authorities any closer to figuring out what the motivation was today? >> reporter: they could be a little bit closer, erin. military officials telling us investigators are pursuing every possible lead including the possibility that some kind of a
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relationship dispute might have led to these killings. they're also giving us a sequence of how this played out overnight last night and into this morning. military officials telling us they got a 911 call between 10:30 and 11:00 last night. they responded to a common area in the marine officer candidate school at the quantico marine base. in that common area they found the first victim dead, a male marine dead. they pursued the shooter into a barracks. he went into a barracks. they surrounded the barracks and tried to establish communication with the shooter. but then they didn't go into the barracks for about another two hours. and they have not explained, erin, that interval between the time that they surrounded it and tried to make communication with him. and the time they went in, but when they went in, they found the shooter dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound and his secretary victim, a female marine, erin. >> when you say they're looking into whether this was -- this crime and murder was motivated by a relationship dispute, what do you know about the two
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marines that were murdered other than their gender? >> reporter: yeah, we know that one of the victims was a male and one was a female. the shooter was a male. they are all three staff members at the officer candidate school. they're not officer candidate themselves. they're not going throughout training. they are staff members. a little unclear whether they're actual trainers or not. one report in the army times says that all three of them are enlisted marines. the marines are not releasing the names of any of the three just yet. that will happen about 24 hours after they notify the last of the next of kin. and we're getting a sense that may happen sometime tomorrow or tomorrow night, erin. >> thank you very much, brian todd. still to come, vice president joe biden reportedly spent more than half a million dollars of taxpayer money on one night in paris. we followed the money. plus, some wait for a special version of coca-cola all year long. you know what? it won't be available in california.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start with stories we care about where we focus on reporting from the front lines. we goin night in mally. the state department designated ann sardine as a terrorist organization. and i was on the ground in the mawli border last july, we told you how they were linked to al qaeda. they have, in fact, received backing from al qaeda and the islamic mag greb to fight forces. now it has taken a while but the group will be subject to sanctions cutting ansar dine off from the financial system. there is video out of australia. there were a series of tornadoes devastating victoria and new south wales. look at this. [ beep ]
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obviously, there was some talking going on in that car while they were filming this. we found this incredible footage of youtube of two men trying to get away from the path of that giant twister. debris is hammering them. you can see it coming down and hammering them in the car as the tornado. it almost catches up to them. they're driving, as you watch this in reverse, as fast as they can go. because they didn't have the time, they were terrified to take the time to turn around. that shows you how scary it was. it looks sort of like out of the movie "twister". this is better because it's real life. california has a coca-cola problem. it involves passover. every year coca-cola makes a special kosher for passover version of the soda that doesn't include corn syrup. you know what? it may be great if you can do that all year round for everybody. but anyway, for the second year in a row, this will not be available in california because california which loves its rules
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and regulations says a substance called 4 mei found in the kosher product causes cancer. now coca-cola and every other state in the union disagrees with that. but nonetheless, you know, as it goes in california, so coke is working on a new kosher version for california that won't be ready until next year. until then, kosher jews in the golden state have to make a choice, smug until kosher coke from other states, drink nonkosher coke or just give up coke altogether for the month of passover. all right. you know it's a fun day in trenton when shaq stops by for a visit. that was a tweet from the governor of new jersey, chris christie. wow what a fun photo op it was. you know, we couldn't help but notice how small governor christy looks next to shaq. shaq at 7'1," governor christie at 5'11." a difference of a foot. speaking of a foot, shaq's shoe size, try that one, is 23. christie's office says he has an 11 1/2 foot. so it's a five inch difference.
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now shaq is a newark native. he was not there to show off his famous feet. he was there to talk about the state's gun buy back program. the governor said they'll work together. i love that picture. it has been 596 days since the united states of america lost its top credit rating. the number is get higher and higher. so what are we doing to get it back? stocks did end higher today but end the the week lower thanks to cyprus. one little place can cause a lot of damage. there is optimism the country will reach a new bailout deal this weekend. we'll see. and now our fourth story "outfront," joe biden's one night in paris. well, it was $585,000.50. and that's just the hotel tab. just the hotel tab. okay? sure, paris is a ridiculously expensive city. but biden and his entourage stayed at a pretty awesome hotel. where right now room rates start at $440 and go all the way to
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$5200 for the presidential suite where, yes, i'm speculating here, it is possible that joe biden did stay in the presidential suite. the vice president's bill also shows a $449,000 charge for one night in london. seriously? for an administration crying armageddon over forced spending cuts? "outfront" tonight, brianna keilar, our white house correspondent. you've been following the money on this. obviously vice-presidential travel is a big undertaking, a lot of people and preparation. but can you break down these incredibly high numbers for us? >> you know, the thing is when you look at this, it's pretty eye popping when you think one night. but what we found kind of looking through this, erin, is that while vice president biden was in paris for one night, he was in london for one night, he comes along with a whole massive entourage that requires as it turns out more than 100 rooms for multiple days. so if you are breaking down, for instance, the bill in london,
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that $449,000 for the hotel bill there, that actually included 136 rooms for multiple nights. that's according to some documents that were put out on a government website. that's an average, yes, of $568 per room per night by our math. we know there are more than 800 room nights as one document spells out. but i think what is really interesting here, erin, is that while we talked with a lot of people who said, hey this is just what this kind of thing costs. we had no idea what the costs were. this kind of thing is not very transparent. you don't find out what the costs are and we just found out because these documents from his february trip to europe were put on a government website. i went through the search myself to try to find other ones from the president's trips, from the vice president's foreign trips. nothing. it kind of makes you wonder if, perhaps, these weren't put on accidentally revealing just how much it costs for the president and vice president to travel. >> well, yeah. and a lot of questions raised by
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that. but when you looked at this, obviously, interesting that you said the president joe biden, you can't find any other trips. but were you able to find any sort of comparability to see what they usually pay or past administrations may have paid? >> you really can't. you're kind of going on the word of past administrations. because this kind of thing, let me tell you, we spoke with a government watchdog organization, a council for one of the organizations. and he said to us, i have never seen documents like this online before. so we don't really have any sort of apples to apples comparison here. but we did talk with folks who did travel for past administrations. i will tell through was one for bush 43 who said that he felt that this was kind of high. this amount of money for, you know, more than $500,000 in paris and about that in london. but also conceded there are a ton of factors that drive of the cost, empty rooms for security. hotel may require a compensation for displacing guests and we were -- i do have to tell you the vice president's office referred us to the state
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department here and they say these costs are nothing out of the ordinary. and they sort of spelled out all of these folks that need to go along with the vice president. they said the contract costs cover the entire range of support including accommodations for military, communications, secret service staff, et cetera. erin? >> all right, brianna, thank you very much. i -- this astounds me. i'm sorry. my guests join me now and let me start with you, hill rich. it seems to me, sure, you need to have security. you need to have these things done right. no one is going to deny. that but 136 people, 800 room nights. a lot of those people probably, i would bet, this is kind of a you have a really tough job and don't get paid a lot of money so you're going to get the paris trip. this seems obscene given the environment we're in now. >> well, first, the most important thing to know, erin, is that the vice president has no control over these costs. the secret service tells him where to travel. the military decides how many of
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their people travel with him. secret service decides how many of their people will travel with him. and on this particular trip, he was a couple of days in munich at a security conference. he was met with chancellor merkel then went to london. the state department decides the size of the diplomatic corps that travels with him. he absolutely has no control over that. and that in and of itself says that, you know, even people sort of talking about this in this way becomes too political because this isn't something that he can control. >> all right. i hear your point. it would seem to me that an administration that was yelling to the world, all right, that these four spending cuts are a problem that we're dealing with now. would it the least say, we want to show some restraint. we want -- when we're on the -- guys, look at the travel budget. don't take extra people. set an example. i understand joe biden isn't picking the hotel. she's right. but wouldn't you think they'd say that? >> your correspondent made a very, very interesting point which is that this is normally
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not very transparent. we don't have numbers on this. and so when you're thinking about, you know, who we're contracting with, you would think that, hey if, there were more transparency around this, perhaps someone would say we can offer a bid that is coming in under that amount. but on the other hand -- >> from what it looked like on the sheet, noncompetitive bids. >> exactly. presumably, perhaps the hotels that you have relationships with and what have you. but surely there is some way to shave the numbers down if those numbers were actually public. but the other more important thing is this, now half a million dollars for one night sounds like an obscene amount of money. but if joe biden were somehow able to, for example, convince the president to agree to change cpi, having the federal government use a sensible index that, would save themmed 2dz 00 billion in a year. that half a million dollars sounds like a lot of money. they can do a heck of a lot more to make up for this. i forgive joe biden every luxurious trip to paris, london, everywhere else if he agrees to do something like change cpi and
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reel in entitlement reform. that will deliver the big bucks. >> i get your point. hillary, what about this issue of setting an example. even if you try to justify the numbers, it seems inappropriate. also, it looks like they posted it by accident. we can't find any other times. and if it's not transparent, it adds to the well we didn't think anybody would ever see so we didn't really care. >> well, i don't think it's the doctor they are hoping nobody ever sees it, i think that's the process. and, in fact, this afternoon i went back and looked at how it worked in the bush administration. and while you can't see also travel records for the bush administration the same way you can't for this administration, what we do know is when they ask congress for money. so, for instance, vice president cheney in 2002 ran out of his travel budget and he made a request to congress to increase his travel budget. so once congress gets involved, then there is some transparency and we know that vice president cheney overspent his travel
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budget. the other thing is, you know, the sequester has belt tightening all over the place. i think you could argue for appearance sake let's do this. let's do that. there are 100 things. i don't know that the republican members of congress have canceled all of their spring break trips that they take. that would also be an appearance thing. you know, but really the big core is how is the government itself going to come together? how are they going to make a deal? how are they going to fix this budget? because as he said this is really just kind of small, particularly when the purpose of the trip really was national security. >> hillary raises a points about the congress does this, too. this seems to be a bipartisan problem. you know, they go on the overseas trips played by lobbyists. they go on private planes. they live the life of luxury. forget you think it is the most inappropriate at the most corrupt. a lot of the foreign trips are boondoggles for a lot of people. at least there is that
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impression. >> my thing is sounlight is the best disinfectant. flab is a legitimate case and the united states is an important country and you need our leaders to meet foreign leaders. but why not put all of the numbers out there for the public to scrutinize and also for other vendors to see if maybe they can give us a better deal. >> there is somebody in paris with a really mice hotel saying, you know what? you give my hotel publicity, i'll do it for $300,000. >> why not? >> pay for a pizza party. >> thanks to both of you. have a great weekend. italy's highest court holds amanda knox's fate in its hands. will they reinstate her murder conviction? and we spent millions of dollars on aviation towers. so why are we closing 149 of them now? and it's friday. so there is this -- your keys , geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7.
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reenstate ree reeninstated. how significant is monday's ruling? >> on monday, the high court of italy will make a very crucial ruling in this murder trial of meredith kercher, seattle native amanda knox was initially convicted of the murder and then in october of 2011 sensationally acquitted of that murder. on monday the high court of italy will re-examine and make a ruling based on whether or not that appellate court followed the rule of law when they acquitted amanda knox. they're not going to be looking at any evidence. they're not hearing any witnesses. they're just taking a look at the case and how it was tried in the appellate process. stle two options. they can either uphold at quital and amanda knox never has to worry about this case again or send it back to retrial. i think at this point it's hard to say what's exactly going to happen, erin? >> all right. thanks, bar barbie. the faa will close 149 regional airport control towers. it's blaming the spending cuts. but there is an irony here. all of those towers were built
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with stimulus money just a few years ago. tom foreman is out front on the story. the government giveth and taketh away. there is a tough question. is this a situation we built towers we never needed to begin with or we built towers we need and now compromising safety? >> i have the feeling that congress is going to get into that soon. i can tell you this, erin, for all the planes out there in the sky on any given day, all the planes out there in a few days there will be fewer eyes watching them because all these towers are being shut down. largely small air fields. look at where they are all over the country. it's not even. some states lost more than others. florida, for example, lost the most, 14 are being closed there. there will be 13 closed in texas. 11 closed in california. the basic reasons for this, erin, is the faa has a lot of employees, 47,000, many of them are air traffic controllers. so if you have to cut the budget, you close towers, you get rid of the controllers and that's how you save money. the green dots are towers they were thinking about closing but have not at this point, erin. >> so, tom, what about this question about safety?
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obviously people saying already, hey, faa, prove to us that you have not just made flying in america a lot more dangerous. >> yeah. this is their argument about it. we have the towers all over the country at various airports. and these towers every day are dealing with thousands and thousands of flights that come and off, they watch the area all around here not only in the sky but also on the ground for animals or vehicles, anything that might get in the way of this plane. so if this center goes away, does that mean this plane is now flying blind? no. it does not. because the truth is there are many other towers that have overlapping radars and radio signals and all sorts of things, so there is a way to watch this airplane. yes, it does put a bigger burden on these other towers and the people who work there to keep track of this plane, but in truth, there are commercial flights that take off every day and land every day at airports that do not have towers and they do it successfully and some of
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those commercial airlines have told us they're ready to take on more of that burden, but certainly some of the safeguards have been taken away. >> very quickly, there are some reports there are brand new towers being shut down in this process. they were just opened using the special money and now being shut down. true? >> yeah, absolutely. this is what drives people crazy. up in frederick, maryland, look at this tower, open less than a year ago. $5.3 million. the feds opened it with stimulus money. now the feds are shutting it down. we know of two more like this down in florida. it was the kind of thing that drives voters crazy. >> yes, it does. thank you, tom. now milking camels for all they're worth. the president was in jordan today, his final stop on his visit to the middle east. he was welcomed by jordan's king abdullah with fanfare, bagpipes, sword carrying guardsmen and camels. today, it was not the first time the president has been greeted by camel. we wanted to show you during a tour of the great pyramids, there he was.
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and at an animal market in kenya, back when he was still a senator. i like that the president likes camels. he spends so much time with camels, i wonder if he's ever tried camel milk. we've been passionate about it on this program for a long time. it could be amazing for you. we first told you about it over a year ago. president obama, if you haven't tried it, here's why we think you should consider it. >> reporter: loud, dusty and very hot. the world's biggest camel ranch is busy at milking time. 2500 camels file in groups of 12 for automatic milking twice a day. camels produce about half as much milk as cows, but less might be more. some people say camel milk is like a miracle drug. they say it could help cure autism, diabetes, cancer and even aids. that's because camel stomachs are similar to human ones. that makes a big difference, according to veterinarians.
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the milk is called camel-licious and the united arab emirates is one of the world's biggest producer. setting up the first automated milking was hard because every camel is a slightly different height. >> you see the humps one after the other. it's not like one row. different models, all different. >> reporter: that's the female. the male's not nearly as pleasant or attractive. >> ratio is one to 100. >> one to 100? >> yeah. >> wow. >> reporter: all that mating happens in just three months a year. baby camel girls will end up having about seven offspring. that's 14 years of milk. where there's milk, there's chocolate. chocolate that comes at a serious price, up to $7 a bar. a price the camels at least
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think is well worth paying. now, you can't buy dubai camel chocolate or milk yet in this country. the fda has to approved it. we hope that happens. but we found a way to import camel products on this show. one of our producers is lack toes intolerant so he's a big fan of camel chocolate. any time we're in the region, he stocks up on chocolate. he's actually on vacation now. in honors of camels and their milk, he posted this picture today. ah. all right. in tonight's essay, space, truly the final frontier? the most exciting adventure still left is "outfront" next. this day calls you.
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